2. We do. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. One wonders if he tried to keep it relatively subtle to avoid further tensions with them. My ANSWERS: (Again please watch and answer the above questions before reading below.). Again, what was the point of what we just saw? Tarkovsky’s masterpiece Stalker recently screened at a theater in Los Angeles and I was able to stay awake for it’s entirety. Although I suppose it's a way of stating the same thing - existentialism sort of forces a burden of creativity on humanity that didn't previously exist. Footage of a tiger silently observing an elephant is going viral on social media - and businessman Anand Mahindra's tweet sums up the video perfectly. Maybe the old men (Stalker, Professor, Writer)- the ones who had already lived, all cynical had failed. Your initial answer might be no-one… but wait! Mendes is Chicago's Smile Diner waitress Katie Franklin. The Stalker, The Writer, and The Professor come to similar realizations about themselves: That their secret hearts and minds are unworthy of miracles, and that they would likely be granted wishes which would haunt them, as Porcupine had been haunted. Ie. Following the 2006 disaster, animals and plants have been grotesquely mutated and deadly anomalies abound. That if we are given the answers to something, it is not worthy of being our spiritual quest. The Stalker doesn’t go in because a ‘stalker’ isn’t supposed to go in. The four-part documentary series about serial killer Richard Ramirez, who killed people in Los Angeles and San Francisco between June 1984 to August 1985, features archival footage, photos, and interviews with survivors, victim’s families, and the detectives who help capture him. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The film tells the story of an expedition led by a figure known as the "Stalker" (Alexander Kaidanovsky), who takes his two clients—a melancholic writer (Anatoly Solonitsyn) seeking inspiration, and a professor (Nikolai Grinko) seeking scientific discovery—to a mysterious restricted site known simply as the "Zone", where there supposedly exists a room which grants a person's innermost desires. To him symbolism is a shallow attempt at good art. Stalker was his second attempt at grappling with science-fiction sub­ject matter, after the space adventure Solaris (1972), though it is different in almost every way from that earlier film, as … Point of discussion: What did happiness through sorrow mean to the wife? But we all know it's all about the subtext. This suggestion of danger (and terror) is deliberate, and throughout the movie it provides a constant tension. Whatever the bizarre anomaly that created the horrors of the zone and the magic of the Room also imbued Monkey with powers. Suddenly what she says to us becomes key in hearing what the parable of the master Tarkovsky is longing to share. ...and is there a cross over into our actual world? Dang it all. I still haven't gotten around to watching this so can't really add anything constructive, but I know there is a superb book called 'Zona' by Geoff Dyer that is entirely about the film 'Stalker' and puzzling out it's meaning. The thing about the Wish Granteris that, although it fulfills your wish, it does so in an unexpected fashion, wh… I would need to read more up on this - but no doubt it influenced him dramatically! 8. It all starts promising enough. The … Because soon, at The Stalker's home, we watch as (in that beautiful monologue, which seems almost like a breaking of the Fourth Wall) The Stalker's wife reveals her utterly good heart as she speaks directly to "us" (which, I think, is actually "The Zone's perspective," as if it is reading her deepest thoughts --similar to the way the Angels hear peoples' "Truths" in Wim Wenders' Wings of Desire). Stalker’s daughter sits by the table reading a book. One thing that sticks with me about Stalker that I rarely see mentioned here is how Martiška (the daughter) is the only character in the world outside the Zone who has any sort of color and doesn't blend into the sepia tone of the world. Like Annihilation, Stalker is a heady, cerebral movie about the baggage people carry, and how it might manifest in a surreal setting that reflects people’s interior lives in unpredictable ways. It’s not in the title, and if the detectives don’t know it, the series won’t disclose it. Interesting enough, these are the most popular views expressed by pop culture atheism of today. Depending on your starting point, your world view, your belief systems - there is a chance our answers will be the same, and a good chance they will differ and both could simultaneously be correct interpretations, another sign of masterful art; it touches you where you are at. And the best part is you can make your own public watchlist to share with friends. What are we given (shown) at the very end? During this speech, the wife reveals that she had married her man out of Love, even though she knew this likely meant a very hard, financially insecure life. Without judgment it lays bare the human condition and provokes examination. Again and think hard - does anyone go into the Room? This question... this is why I come here. He shots that three hour film twice. To me, this fits a far more accurate parallel to the faith- and empiricism-based worldviews of the other two. That we need an intangible, unverifiable thing to believe (or not believe) in. That jives with my thinking. They did not deserve the gifts of the Zone anyway. From this, we can imply that these sorts of (perhaps essential) great human values had been passed along to her daughter as she was being raised...--As we next witness, in another room, the daughter herself reading a superb work of Literature, filling her mind with grand poems of Love, which can be seen as a proof of her sweet, magnificent "inner world." New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, News & Discussion about Major Motion Pictures, Press J to jump to the feed. I thought the movie was great, good enough that I will definitely buy it and watch it a few more times. -That if we are given the answers to something, it is not worthy of being our spiritual quest.-, About your particular point of "What are we given (shown) at the very end?". "My engagement to … The Zone is triggering an evolutionary shift that people born before it existed struggle to understand. Stalker (1979) A poetic sense for the dreamlike hold of memory and the elemental grandeur of nature already shines through Tarkovsky’s first feature Ivan’s Childhood (1962), within the more conventional, suspenseful format of a Soviet war movie about a 12-year-old on reconnaissance at the front. 35 comments Two things: Stalker is the kind of movie that if you dont have sanctioned and educated voices telling you what the ten minute shot of the creek means, then you will definitely feel like you are missing a lot. I've gotta re-watch though and pick more up. The dog which then follows The Stalker out of The Zone seems to be a literal manifestation (as well as a symbolic one) of The Zone's "living presence and sentience in the World" now expanding where it "roams.". The soundtrack's industrial noise during this sequence reinforces the idea that despite all our industrialization and the resulting loss of religious life, the God-mystery remains. What is the purpose of the journey our three adventurers go on? We walk slowly into a room through those beautiful antique doors to see the sleeping family. We all know the story by now, so director Tiller Russell can leisurely fill in the plot. What does the Room supposedly give you? For the purpose of making this article flow better, the narrator will be referred to by this name. Were you granted yours? but i think it has to do with the unity of the strange apocalyptic scripture, the beautiful visuals, the eerie sense of unknowing until that point, and the subtle sound design. france24.com/en/liv... 21.6k 852 comments Both the novel and the games are among my favourites of all time so I’m quite excited to round out my … It seemed out of place to me. I just watched Stalker by Andrei Tarkovsky. The Wife of the Stalker’s speech. what interests me the most is the dream sequence, which i have found very profoundly moving on both viewings. So to answer “What was Stalker about?” I pose the following list of questions. Writer brings all sorts of accusations against Stalker, questioning his motives and his honesty. Until the end of the film we take it on faith based on the characters actions. Stalker is loosely based on the 1972 novel Roadside Picnic by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky (which I highly recommend), who also wrote the script for the movie. We are in the Room as the audience looking back at them - and the Room will give you your heart’s true desire. It certainly changed how I view the medium, and it's an instant favorite. Definitely a movie to watch. However, in terms of horror elements, this new Netflix horror movie did actually deliver. Funny question you might say… but very important to see whose perspective the movie belongs too… It’s us - the viewer. Here you find a large monolithic crystalline structure (about 5-7 meters high); the so-called Wish Granter, a legend in its own. Their destination is a room which sits at the center of this countryside, a room in which dreams are rumored to be fulfilled. I still wonder if this was a way of providing her a saintly aura, to let us know there was something special about her before the miracle that ends the film. I think with a movie like this the last line will work. There are some great mysteries in the film. I watched Stalker the other day and wrote the following - not sure where else to post and have intelligent discussion. 6. thanks for this. Before you go judging me, watch it and tell me if you don’t yawn a couple of times over the fifteen minute shot when the leads drowsily take naps. His rejection of posterity speaks to that, I think. Most of these movies also lack sex scenes for being 80s-90s R rated movies. Do you have faith? I think the best input I can offer here is that even though he tried to avoid it like the plague... he provided some of the most coherent symbolism of his career with Stalker likely as a result of his ongoing tensions with the Soviet Union. May be worth a look, if you're a fan of the film. Something huge that I feel like a fool for overlooking. trilogy of PC games released between 2007 and 2009. So first go watch the movie Stalker… then ask yourself, “What did I just see?”. The Cripple daughter moves items through telekinesis. Now to ask again does anyone go into the Room? Stalker is not a "deep" movie because digging deeper and deeper doesn't reveal depths of meaning. Magic. So I want to write this before I read your post, just because it's been stewing for a few days. And don’t fall into the trap of symbolism… Tarkovsky hates direct parallels with anything… he calls it shallow preaching, bad filmmaking and detests it in his or other’s films. But I didn't get the ending. This is the unspoken law of those who can lead others to the room. The use of sounds to switch between places, time, and emotions is very enthralling. QUESTIONS to ASK YOURSELF following a viewing of TARKOVSKY’S STALKER. The heyday of the subgenre was the mid 1980s to late 1990s. Tarkovsky rarely makes short films and seems to enjoy forced patience required in some of his films. Due to problems with the shooting stock, the dismissal of waves of unsatisfactory assistants by Tarkovsky, and a complete rethinking of the script, Stalker … It is a movie with some of the most beautiful shots in cinema, a fantastic, vulnerable performance by Aleksandr Kaydanovskiy and masterful sound design. In this case - things are so intentional, so perfect - you’d be a fool to say Tarkovsky isn’t trying to “equip your soul for good” - another poorly paraphrased saying of his by me. I couldn't look away. I would lke some thoughts on it, but as a fair warning, this paragraph is probably irrelevant to your post. I can't help but see a resemblance between these characters and Hitchens/Dawkins, although obviously they couldn't have been thought of when making the film. Happiness through sorrow is the point. All Horror has you covered! One interpretation is that the scene represents the way that there is no amount of evidence that will convince someone of something if they don’t choose to change their view. The child, the innocent child not ruined by the cynicism of the sepia world was deserving. We are in the Room as the audience looking back at them - and the Room will give you your heart’s true desire. In Andrei Tarkovsky’s Stalker, three men leave the confines of a rotting Eastern European city and walk through a pleasant-looking rural setting. Nowhere else in the movie does anything of a definitive supernatural (literally, beyond natural) occurance. Dangerous Lies is a frustrating film, filled with teases, red herrings and never-explained sub-plots. I was keen to have a low key day on r/TF after like 17 posts recently and then you go and post a thorough, fascinating and gorgeous breakdown of one of my favourite films ever that happens to be deeply embedded in my soul. The Stalker’s speech. Should we believe it, or is it a sham. Both the novel and the movie formed the basis for the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. We take the alertness of the Stalker and their decisions as evidence of the danger, yet not the proof. With Hereditary now in theaters, we take a look at the dark, disturbing, and twisted ending and try to explain what the hell happened to the characters. I would argue faith. "The ending has to be understood within the science fiction context of the whole. Next there are two speeches at the climax of the movie that must be discussed. It should be on those lists of 1,000 movies to see before you die. She speaks directly to us. OP gave some history on her situation with her ex before diving into the specifics that has her seeking advice. Tarkovsky made film to inspire the soul - to equip the audience to love more. In the scene the motorcyclist comes from the right. Was your desire fulfilled from going into the Room? aside from being beautifully, beautifully shot, there is something very touching about it that i can't pin down. The Zone of Alienation stretches between the borders of Ukraine and Belarus, and is kept protected by the Ukrainian authorities. and was marrying the Stalker the right thing to do? Why are they there? My first attempted to watch Stalker was on my bed with a laptop, and about half an hour in… I woke up for the credits. Here's one point where I differ a bit from the usual interpretation: to me, if the Writer represents the archetype of the artistic, it's rather secondary to his representing existentialism. I happened to see this for the first time three days ago, not knowing anything about the film or Tarkovsky. Not an abstract faith, but for purposes of the story - faith in the Room (that it is a true judge of the heart, with the power to grant wishes). Thank you - I'm humbled - can't wait to hear your thoughts. I suppose that if the audience is being granted a wish, it is that the ultimate mystery is neither destroyed nor revealed. My first attempted to watch Stalker was on my bed with a laptop, and about half an hour in… I woke up for the credits. I gotta go yeah with that, I think you're totally onto a subtle perfect use of the color grade to impact the story - such a good observation! If the protagonist activates the Wish Granter, one of the 5 endings are shown, based on your actions throughout the course of your campaign. really? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. I beg you to answer them yourself. Was he trying to tell us we need faith, faith in miracles, faith in love, faith in God to do this? i'm not religious at all fwiw. 10. Also, I thought the writer expressed existential attitudes but the film was pretty decidedly against all of that. Stalker Horror Movies. I’ve read a bit of Tarkovsky’s stuff in the past and here is a quote of his: He never said that exactly - but he meant it, and oh man can he pull it off. During a recent Reddit AMA (ask me anything) session, Verbinski has clarified his position on what happened to the Bioshock movie and what the chances are of it being revived, stating: "It’s an R rated movie. Well, you’ve come to the right place. First off, why is she speaking to us? Thanks for the heads-up, hadn't heard of the book, but added to my Amazon wishlist. A warrant has been issued for Katy Perry’s alleged stalker. So if the crippled daughter, the wandering dog, the reoccurring images of syringes don’t directly mean something… then what was their point? And now that I've read your post, I feel silly. Or something like that. But that was a "crass" miracle which ended up driving him to suicide, because it made Porcupine realize he wasn't a very good man. Looking for the Eli ending to be explained? The movie is a bit confusing because of all of the time jumps, but we're going to try and explain it as linearly as possible. 7. At about 23 minutes, when Stalker, writer and professor are driving in their car they have to hide for a motorcyclist. We therefore ask the same questions the characters ask throughout. came to this forum to look for this - for some reason i don't remember reading about this after the first viewing, when i first combed reddit to read about it. Every clue, setback, and recalculation in Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer is satisfyingly frustrating. It’s just the plot of Eli that was a bit too weird and left lots of people with a … i remember thinking that it was like the stalker, by way of tarkovsky, had preempted how i felt processing the dream sequence, when the music kicks in and then when it quietens down. Why don’t the heroes go into the Room? That is, vast "outside forces, Godlike in their grandeur," had bestowed upon a worthy being the next massive leap forward in Evolution --one that is, for all intents and purposes, mystical. We don’t even get the name of the serial killer until the end of the third episode. That this young girl can suddenly perform "miracles" seems to suggest that the power of The Room (carried out of the Zone by The Dog) has finally found someone worthy of bestowing almost Godlike powers upon: A young, good-hearted, love-filled, undoubting girl. I saw Stalker 7 years ago in Chicago. (Her fine "soul" made possible because of the best attributes of her parents --most especially, her father's humble honest self-awareness.). Let's use the end of the film as an example of the entire meaning of the movie: Stalker desired that people would have faith. The Writer doesn’t want to see what his heart’s true desire actually is, he would rather sit in his nice house complaining than to actually look into his soul. 3. Who goes into the Room during the film? This is the point of the Stalker’s worn out frustrated speech - that brings the Wife to speak - to us (the audience). phenomenal film. Refine See titles to watch instantly, titles you haven't rated, etc. I wanted to keep it R rated, I felt like that would be appropriate, and it’s an expensive movie. Love stalker horror movies? But don’t be fooled - this doesn’t mean the master artist isn’t trying to say something. When you enter the inner parts of the Sarcophagus, you reach the wondrous Reactor #4, which was the cause of the real Chernobyl disaster. Stalker is one of my favourite films. 6. Maybe it was the 64 ounce caffeinated beverage I was sipping, or the socially awkward silences and creaking seats that kept 600 of us holding our breaths so as not to ruin the mood - but the tension was real, and I was riveted to the screen this time, and learned a s**tload about awesome filmmaking. Night Stalker Updates: Now that there has been a lot of criminal series trending these days, Netflix has premiered another enticing original criminal documentary, “Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer.” This series is so attention capturing and the cheerful introduction and tunes help people to get stick with the series. Secondly, he shot it twice. It's definitely true that the writer and the scientist represent the most cynical and disgusting views of humanity. I think it'd be easy to interpret Stalker as an autobiographical account of his saga with the USSR. They earned the R rating almost entirely based on violence. Remember the warning about the old Stalker who went into the Room to heal his brother but came out rich instead - committing suicide when he realized that he wasn’t as noble as he thought. The Professor was actually there to destroy the room, going into something far beyond what he could explain is something he never wanted. Were you granted to believe in what this story and I would say Tarkovsky was begging you to believe in… that the Room was real. Marrying the man with faith, joining together with faith doesn’t make the journey perfect - but it makes it worth it. Without that ending the discussion would have become "was it real or imagined... and what about the id", thus allowing the much more interesting and fulfilling discussions we have now. I understand the girl has some sort of supernatural powers, but I don't see any relevance to the film or any sort of meaning. (Hint: the Room fulfills one’s true desires.). I would be interested to know who wrote that too. I immediately started reading about the film and its interpretations. A Bangladeshi film director has been arrested and charged after a scene in "Nabab LLB", a fictional courtroom drama, depicted police harshly interrogating a rape victim and highlighting attitudes towards violence against women in the conservative nation sparked the ire of the force. Were you granted yours? She still wears a shawl. I find that the bleak russian exsistentialism makes it a hard movie to watch in full length. The example given above about the stalker that did go in… it ruined him. Because we are the ones on the journey! The wish-granting power of the room is a source of ego-gratification to the essentially atheist intellectuals led to it, and hence can be as much a source of destruction as redemption. A trick of the artist here is that the proof of the Room, the faith in it’s reality, is always at question. Here's my brief breakdown of the film's last key passages, for whatever new or obvious insights they may provide: Regarding the meaning of the film's final minutes, here's how I read it: The Stalker, The Writer, and The Professor ultimately decided not to enter The Room because of the cautionary story regarding Porcupine. There are few movies and TV shows from the 1960s through early 1980s that can be considered Proto-Girls With Guns. I update this list everytime when I have watched a new movie. Thanks for taking the time and providing feedback. While all of those objects matter and are intentionally put there by Tarkovsky the direct A equals B symbolism is never as impactful as the subtle emotional story that he weaves. The Zone is something of alien origin, which undoubtedly in Tarkovsky's view is a God origin, rather than one of little green men. My answers will follow. whaaaaaattt it screened at an actual theater ahhh why was I 3000 miles away from it :(. NOTE: The narrator is never given a name in the story, but is commonly called "Dathan" by fans, after the author, Dathan Auerbach. If he were meant to purely represent the Creative, he would be fine with being appreciated only after his death. “Stalker” is a multi-layered film whose science-fiction surface touches upon topics ranging from home and identity to belief. Just an FYI, New York City, Chicago and Los Angeles screen movies like Stalker almost everyday. Remember the shot looking back on the three travelers, worn out, the Professor throwing pieces of the bomb? I have only seen it once though (due to the 3 hour length), maybe I should give it a rewatch. Due to the radical decrease in human presence and activity, wildlife has flourished in the Zone and the area is often described as having been "reclaimed by nature". One woman took to Reddit to get advice on a situation with her ex and his wife, after she and her new fiancé moved into the same neighborhood. A discussion on Tarkovsky’s Stalker - and the possible meaning of it’s story. after this scene, when all three are awake, the stalker talks about the logic of music (to himself). Hi, Nothingaboutmeisreal. 11. There are suggestions of oddities, some of which make little sense without having read the novella and short stories on which this is based (such as tying strings to nuts and tossing them ahead), but little else. 4. Point of discussion: Why did the Professor and the Writer lack faith? 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